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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Mahatma Letter No. 8#Page 1 transcription, image, and notes|(1)]] For centuries we have had in Thibet a moral, pure hearted, simple people, unblest with civilization, hence — untainted by its vices. For ages has been Thibet the last corner of the globe not so entirely corrupted as to preclude the mingling together of the two atmospheres — the physical and the spiritual. And he would have us exchange this for his ideal of civilization and <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Govt.</del>! This is pure self peroration, an intense passion for hearing himself discuss, and for imposing his ideas upon every one.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Mahatma Letter No. 8#Page 1 transcription, image, and notes|(1)]] For centuries we have had in Thibet a moral, pure hearted, simple people, unblest with civilization, hence — untainted by its vices. For ages has been Thibet the last corner of the globe not so entirely corrupted as to preclude the mingling together of the two atmospheres — the physical and the spiritual. And he would have us exchange this for his ideal of civilization and <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Gov[ernmen]t</ins>! This is pure self peroration, an intense passion for hearing himself discuss, and for imposing his ideas upon every one.</div></td></tr>
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SysopJ
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''This is Letter No. 98 in Barker numbering.''' [[Koot Hoomi]] offers comments on a letter of [[A. O. Hume|A. O. Hume's]]. See below for [[Mahatma Letter No. 9#Context and background|Context and background]].</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''This is Letter No. 98 in Barker numbering.''' [[Koot Hoomi]] offers comments on a letter of [[A. O. Hume|A. O. Hume's]]. See below for [[Mahatma Letter No. 9#Context and background|Context and background]].</div></td></tr>
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SysopJ
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SysopJ
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>hang upon incessant argumentation and philipics? He says that he is no doctrinaire when he is the very essence of one! He is worthy of all the respect and even affection of those who know him well. But my stars! in less than 24 hours he would paralyse any one of us, who might be unfortunate enough to come within a mile of him, merely by his monotonous piping about his own views. No; a thousand times no: such men as he make able statesmen, orators anything you like but — never [[Adepts]]. We have not one of that sort among us. And that is perhaps why we never felt the necessity for a house of lunatics. In less than three months he would have driven half of our Thibetan population mad!</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>hang upon incessant argumentation and philipics? He says that he is no doctrinaire when he is the very essence of one! He is worthy of all the respect and even affection of those who know him well. But my stars! in less than 24 hours he would paralyse any one of us, who might be unfortunate enough to come within a mile of him, merely by his monotonous piping about his own views. No; a thousand times no: such men as he make able statesmen, orators anything you like but — never [[Adepts]]. We have not one of that sort among us. And that is perhaps why we never felt the necessity for a house of lunatics. In less than three months he would have driven half of our Thibetan population mad!</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I mailed a letter for you the other day at Umballa. I see you did not receive it yet.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I mailed <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Mahatma Letter No. 10|</ins>a letter<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </ins>for you the other day at Umballa. I see you did not receive it yet.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>It has even been suggested that one of KH's chelas or even HPB may have written it on behalf of the Mahatma. Another student of the letters have proposed the Letter 9 could have been a test.<ref>Joy Mills, ''Reflections on an Ageless Wisdom'', (Wheaton, IL: Theosophical Publishing House, 2010), 22.</ref></blockquote></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>It has even been suggested that one of KH's chelas or even HPB may have written it on behalf of the Mahatma. Another student of the letters have proposed the Letter 9 could have been a <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Probation|</ins>test<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</ins>.<ref>Joy Mills, ''Reflections on an Ageless Wisdom'', (Wheaton, IL: Theosophical Publishing House, 2010), 22.</ref></blockquote></div></td></tr>
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Pablo Sender
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Mahatma Letter No. 8#Page 1 transcription, image, and notes|(1)]] For centuries we have had in Thibet a moral, pure hearted, simple people, unblest with civilization, hence — untainted by its vices. For ages has been Thibet the last corner of the globe not so entirely corrupted as to preclude the mingling together of the two atmospheres — the physical and the spiritual. And he would have us exchange this for his ideal of civilization and Govt.! This is pure self peroration, an intense passion for hearing himself discuss, and for imposing his ideas upon every one.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Mahatma Letter No. 8#Page 1 transcription, image, and notes|(1)]] For centuries we have had in Thibet a moral, pure hearted, simple people, unblest with civilization, hence — untainted by its vices. For ages has been Thibet the last corner of the globe not so entirely corrupted as to preclude the mingling together of the two atmospheres — the physical and the spiritual. And he would have us exchange this for his ideal of civilization and Govt.! This is pure self peroration, an intense passion for hearing himself discuss, and for imposing his ideas upon every one.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>(1) For centuries we have had in Thibet a moral, pure hearted, simple people, unblest with civilization, hence — untainted by its vices. For ages has been Thibet the last corner of the globe not so entirely corrupted as to preclude the mingling together of the two atmospheres — the physical and the spiritual. And he would have us exchange this for his ideal of civilization and Govt.! This is pure self peroration, an intense passion for hearing himself discuss, and for imposing his ideas upon every one.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Mahatma Letter No. 8#Page 1 transcription, image, and notes|</ins>(1)<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </ins>For centuries we have had in Thibet a moral, pure hearted, simple people, unblest with civilization, hence — untainted by its vices. For ages has been Thibet the last corner of the globe not so entirely corrupted as to preclude the mingling together of the two atmospheres — the physical and the spiritual. And he would have us exchange this for his ideal of civilization and Govt.! This is pure self peroration, an intense passion for hearing himself discuss, and for imposing his ideas upon every one.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>(2) Now really, [[A. O. Hume|Mr. H.]] ought to be sent by an international Committee of Philanthropists, as a Friend of Perishing Humanity to teach our [[Dalai Lama]]s — [[wisdom]]. Why he does not straight-way sit down and frame a plan for something like [[Plato]]'s Ideal Republic with a new scheme for everything under the Sun and moon — passes my poor comprehension!</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Mahatma Letter No. 8#Page 3|</ins>(2) Now really, [[A. O. Hume|Mr. H.]] ought to be sent by an international Committee of Philanthropists, as a Friend of Perishing Humanity to teach our [[Dalai Lama]]s — [[wisdom]]. Why he does not straight-way sit down and frame a plan for something like [[Plato]]'s Ideal Republic with a new scheme for everything under the Sun and moon — passes my poor comprehension!</div></td></tr>
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