Mahatma Letter No. 136 - Revision history

Pablo Sender at 16:17, 14 November 2022

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	With your permission, I have left the explanation of the "distressing incident" to [[Helena Petrovna Blavatsky\|Mad. B.]] herself. As she wrote to you, however, only simple truth, there is very little chance for her of being believed, save perhaps, by her few immediate friends — if she has any left by the time this reaches you.		With your permission, I have left the explanation of the "distressing incident" to [[Helena Petrovna Blavatsky\|Mad. B.]] herself. As she wrote to you, however, only simple truth, there is very little chance for her of being believed, save perhaps, by her few immediate friends — if she has any left by the time this reaches you.

	You must have understood by this time, my friend, that the centenial ~~(1)~~ attempt made by us to open the eyes of the blind world — has nearly failed: in India — partially, in Europe — with a few exceptions — absolutely. There is but one chance of salvation for those who still believe: to rally together and face the storm bravely.		You must have understood by this time, my friend, that the centenial attempt made by us to open the eyes of the blind world — has nearly failed: in India — partially, in Europe — with a few exceptions — absolutely. There is but one chance of salvation for those who still believe: to rally together and face the storm bravely.

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	== Context and background ==		== Context and background ==

			This letter from the Mahatma K.H. is enclosed in a letter from H.P.B. found in LBS pp. 75-77. In the postscript to her letter, H.P.B. writes: "At this very instant I receive a letter for you. I enclose it — pardon me, but I do hope — it is the last, for I have no more strength to suffer."

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SysopJ at 03:31, 1 March 2020

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SysopJ at 15:02, 18 December 2019

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	'''~~This is~~ Letter No. 65 in Barker numbering.''' See below for [[Mahatma Letter No. 136#Context and background\|Context and background]].		This is '''Letter No. 136''' in ''' [[The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett (book)\|''The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett'']], 4th chronological edition'''. It corresponds to '''Letter No. 65''' in '''Barker numbering.''' See below for [[Mahatma Letter No. 136#Context and background\|Context and background]].
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	== Notes ==		== Notes ==
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SysopJ at 15:29, 4 December 2019

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	'''This is Letter No. 65 in Barker numbering.''' See below for [[Mahatma Letter No. 136#Context and background\|Context and background]].		'''This is Letter No. 65 in Barker numbering.''' See below for [[Mahatma Letter No. 136#Context and background\|Context and background]].

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	* ''Peiwen Yunfu'' (literally: "rhyme storehouse of esteemed phrases") is a 1711 Chinese rhyme dictionary of literary allusions and poetic dictions.		* '''Peiwen Yunfu''' (literally: "rhyme storehouse of esteemed phrases") is a 1711 Chinese rhyme dictionary of literary allusions and poetic dictions.

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Janet Kerschner at 19:23, 25 November 2015

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	You ask me "to throw light" upon the "new distressing event" arising from Mr. A. Gebhard's fanciful accusation? For the matter of that, dozens of events of a far more distressing character, each of them calculated to crush the hapless woman chosen as victim, are ripe and ready to burst over her head wounding as badly the Society. Again, I should have imagined that, after my signal failure to satisfy your rigorous logicians in the "Billing — Massey" and "Kiddle — Light" incidents, my personal opinion and explanations were held in small honour at the West? You seem, however, to think with Whewell that "every failure is a step to success" and your confidence in me must alarm		You ask me "to throw light" upon the "new distressing event" arising from [[Gebhard Family\|Mr. A. Gebhard's]] fanciful accusation? For the matter of that, dozens of events of a far more distressing character, each of them calculated to crush the [[Helena Petrovna Blavatsky\|hapless woman]] chosen as victim, are ripe and ready to burst over her head wounding as badly the Society. Again, I should have imagined that, after my signal failure to satisfy your rigorous logicians in the "[[Mary Hollis Billing\|Billing]] — [[C. C. Massey\|Massey]]" and "[[Henry Kiddle\|Kiddle]] — [[Light (periodical)\|Light]]" incidents, my personal opinion and explanations were held in small honour at the West? You seem, however, to think with Whewell that "every failure is a step to success" and your confidence in me must alarm
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	*		* The '''fanciful accusation''' may refer to Arthur Gebhard's criticism of [[Henry Steel Olcott\|Colonel Olcott]], written under the influence of [[Mohini Mohun Chatterji\|Mohini M. Chatterjee]]; It was refuted by HPB in “The Original Programme of The Theosophical Society.”
			* William '''Whewell''' (1794-1866) was an English scientist and philosopher whose quotation went on to say, "Every detection of what is false directs us towards what is true: every trial exhausts some tempting form of error."

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	seriously your friends?		seriously your friends?

	With your permission, I have left the explanation of the "distressing incident" to Mad. B. herself. As she wrote to you, however, only simple truth, there is very little chance for her of being believed, save perhaps, by her few immediate friends — if she has any left by the time this reaches you.		With your permission, I have left the explanation of the "distressing incident" to [[Helena Petrovna Blavatsky\|Mad. B.]] herself. As she wrote to you, however, only simple truth, there is very little chance for her of being believed, save perhaps, by her few immediate friends — if she has any left by the time this reaches you.

	You must have understood by this time, my friend, that the centenial (1) attempt made by us to open the eyes of the blind world — has nearly failed: in India — partially, in Europe — with a few exceptions — absolutely. There is but one chance of salvation for those who still believe: to rally together and face the storm bravely.		You must have understood by this time, my friend, that the centenial (1) attempt made by us to open the eyes of the blind world — has nearly failed: in India — partially, in Europe — with a few exceptions — absolutely. There is but one chance of salvation for those who still believe: to rally together and face the storm bravely.
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	Let the eyes of the most intellectual among the public be opened to the foul conspiracy against theosophy that is going on in the missionary circles and in one year's time you will have regained your footing. In India it is: "either Christ or the Founders (!!) Let us stone them to death!" They have nearly finished killing one — they are now attacking the other victim — Olcott. The padris are as busy as bees. The P.R.S. has given them an excellent opportunity of making capital of their ambassador. — Mr. Hodgson fell quite easily a victim to false evidence; and the scientific a priori impossibility of such phenomena helping the reality of the phenomena he was sent		Let the eyes of the most intellectual among the public be opened to the foul conspiracy against theosophy that is going on in the missionary circles and in one year's time you will have regained your footing. In India it is: "either Christ or the Founders (!!) Let us stone them to death!" They have nearly finished killing one — they are now attacking the other victim — Olcott. The padris are as busy as bees. The [[Society for Psychical Research\|P.R.S.]] has given them an excellent opportunity of making capital of their ambassador. — [[Richard Hodgson\|Mr. Hodgson]] fell quite easily a victim to false evidence; and the scientific a priori impossibility of such [[phenomena]] helping the reality of the phenomena he was sent

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	'''NOTES:'''		'''NOTES:'''
	*		* '''padris''' means "padres" or missionaries.
			* '''P.R.S.''' is the S. P. R., or [[Society for Psychical Research]].
			* '''a priori''' knowledge comes from deductive reasoning rather than by experience.

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	to investigate and report upon is utterly and totally discredited. He may plead as an excuse the personal disappointment he felt, which made him turn in a fury against the alleged authors of the "gigantic swindle"; but there is no doubt that if the Society collapses it will be due to him. We may add the praiseworthy efforts of our mutual friend of Simla (A. O. Hume) who has not, however, resigned, — and those of Mr. Lane Fox. What Society could withstand in its integrality the effects of two such tongues as those of Messrs. H. and L. F.! While the former taking into his confidence every theosophist of note, assures him that since the beginning of the Society not one of the letters		to investigate and report upon is utterly and totally discredited. He may plead as an excuse the personal disappointment he felt, which made him turn in a fury against the alleged authors of the "gigantic swindle"; but there is no doubt that if the Society collapses it will be due to him. We may add the praiseworthy efforts of our [[A. O. Hume\|mutual friend of Simla (A. O. Hume)]] who has not, however, resigned, — and those of [[George Lane-Fox\|Mr. Lane Fox]]. What Society could withstand in its integrality the effects of two such tongues as those of Messrs. H. and L. F.! While the former taking into his confidence every theosophist of note, assures him that since the beginning of the Society not one of the letters
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	* ''Peiwen Yunfu'' (literally: "~~rime~~ storehouse of esteemed phrases") is a 1711 Chinese ~~rime~~ dictionary of literary allusions and poetic dictions.		* ''Peiwen Yunfu'' (literally: "rhyme storehouse of esteemed phrases") is a 1711 Chinese rhyme dictionary of literary allusions and poetic dictions.

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	*		* ''Peiwen Yunfu'' (literally: "rime storehouse of esteemed phrases") is a 1711 Chinese rime dictionary of literary allusions and poetic dictions.

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	your literary laws. Any writer has the privilege of taking out whole sentences from the dictionary of Pai ~~— Wouen — Yen — Fu~~ the greatest in the world, full of quotations from every known writer, and containing all the phrases ever used — and to frame them to express his thought. This does not apply to the Kiddle case which happened just as I told you. But you may find, perchance throughout my letters twenty detached sentences which may have been already used in books or MSS. When you write upon some subject you surround yourself with books of references etc.: when we write upon something the Western opinion about which is unknown to us, we surround ourselves with hundreds of paras: upon this particular topic from dozens of different works — impressed		your literary laws. Any writer has the privilege of taking out whole sentences from the dictionary of Pai-wouen-yun-fu the greatest in the world, full of quotations from every known writer, and containing all the phrases ever used — and to frame them to express his thought. This does not apply to the Kiddle case which happened just as I told you. But you may find, perchance throughout my letters twenty detached sentences which may have been already used in books or MSS. When you write upon some subject you surround yourself with books of references etc.: when we write upon something the Western opinion about which is unknown to us, we surround ourselves with hundreds of paras: upon this particular topic from dozens of different works — impressed

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	literary laws. Any writer has the privilege of taking out whole sentences from the dictionary of Pai — Wouen — Yen — Fu the greatest in the world, full of quotations from every known writer, and containing all the phrases ever used — and to frame them to express his thought. This does not apply to the Kiddle case which happened just as I told you. But you may find, perchance throughout my letters twenty detached sentences which may have been already used in books or MSS. When you write upon some subject you surround yourself with books of references etc.: when we write upon something the Western opinion about which is unknown to us, we surround ourselves with hundreds of paras: upon this particular topic from dozens of different works — impressed		your literary laws. Any writer has the privilege of taking out whole sentences from the dictionary of Pai — Wouen — Yen — Fu the greatest in the world, full of quotations from every known writer, and containing all the phrases ever used — and to frame them to express his thought. This does not apply to the Kiddle case which happened just as I told you. But you may find, perchance throughout my letters twenty detached sentences which may have been already used in books or MSS. When you write upon some subject you surround yourself with books of references etc.: when we write upon something the Western opinion about which is unknown to us, we surround ourselves with hundreds of paras: upon this particular topic from dozens of different works — impressed

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