Mahatma Letter No. 30 - Revision history

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	Saw at last [[Morya\|M.]] and showed him your last or rather Benemadhab's on which you have scratched a query. It is the latter [[Morya]] answers. I wrote this under his dictation and now copy it.		Saw at last [[Morya\|M.]] and showed him your last or rather Benemadhab's on which you have scratched a query. It is the latter [[Morya]] answers. I wrote this under his dictation and now copy it.

			'''NOTE: The following words were dictated by M.'''

	I wrote to [[Alfred Percy Sinnett\|Sinnett]] my opinion on the [[Prayāg Theosophical Society\|Allahabad theosophists]]. (Not through me though?) Adityarum B. wrote a foolish letter to [[Damodar K. Mavalankar\|Damodar]] and Benemadhab writes a foolish request to [[Alfred Percy Sinnett\|Mr. Sinnett]]. Because [[Koot Hoomi\|K.H.]] chose to correspond with two men, who proved of the utmost importance and use to the Society they all — whether wise or stupid, clever or dull, possibly useful or utterly useless — lay their claims to correspond with us directly — too. Tell him (you) that this must be stopped. For ages we never corresponded with anyone, nor do we mean to. What has Benemadhab or any other of the many claimants done to have a right to such a claim? Nothing whatever.		I wrote to [[Alfred Percy Sinnett\|Sinnett]] my opinion on the [[Prayāg Theosophical Society\|Allahabad theosophists]]. (Not through me though?) Adityarum B. wrote a foolish letter to [[Damodar K. Mavalankar\|Damodar]] and Benemadhab writes a foolish request to [[Alfred Percy Sinnett\|Mr. Sinnett]]. Because [[Koot Hoomi\|K.H.]] chose to correspond with two men, who proved of the utmost importance and use to the Society they all — whether wise or stupid, clever or dull, possibly useful or utterly useless — lay their claims to correspond with us directly — too. Tell him (you) that this must be stopped. For ages we never corresponded with anyone, nor do we mean to. What has Benemadhab or any other of the many claimants done to have a right to such a claim? Nothing whatever.

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	But think well over it and you will. [[M.]] means here, that they have no right or even power to go against the natural or that work which is prescribed to each class of beings or existing things by the law of nature. The [[Brother]]s, for instance could prolong life but they could not destroy [[death]], not even for themselves. They can to a degree palliate evil and relieve suffering; they could not destroy evil. No more can the [[Dhyan Chohan]]s impede the work of the [[Mamo Chohan]]s, for their Law is darkness, ignorance, destruction etc., as that of the former is Light, knowledge and creation. The [[Dhyan Chohan]]s answer to Buddh, [[Wisdom#Divine wisdom\|Divine Wisdom]] and Life in blissful knowledge, and the Ma-mos are the personification in nature of [[Shiva]], [[Jehovah]] and other invented monsters with Ignorance at their tail).		But think well over it and you will. [[M.]] means here, that they have no right or even power to go against the natural or that work which is prescribed to each class of beings or existing things by the law of nature. The [[Brother]]s, for instance could prolong life but they could not destroy [[death]], not even for themselves. They can to a degree palliate evil and relieve suffering; they could not destroy evil. No more can the [[Dhyan Chohan]]s impede the work of the [[Mamo Chohan]]s, for their Law is darkness, ignorance, destruction etc., as that of the former is Light, knowledge and creation. The [[Dhyan Chohan]]s answer to Buddh, [[Wisdom#Divine wisdom\|Divine Wisdom]] and Life in blissful knowledge, and the Ma-mos are the personification in nature of [[Shiva]], [[Jehovah]] and other invented monsters with Ignorance at their tail).

	'''This is the end of M's letter. Then HPB continues in her own words.'''		'''NOTE: This is the end of M's letter. Then HPB continues in her own words.'''

	The last phrase of [[M.]]'s I translate is thus. "Tell him (you) then that for the sake of those who desire to learn and have information, I am ready		The last phrase of [[M.]]'s I translate is thus. "Tell him (you) then that for the sake of those who desire to learn and have information, I am ready

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	But think well over it and you will. [[M.]] means here, that they have no right or even power to go against the natural or that work which is prescribed to each class of beings or existing things by the law of nature. The [[Brother]]s, for instance could prolong life but they could not destroy [[death]], not even for themselves. They can to a degree palliate evil and relieve suffering; they could not destroy evil. No more can the [[Dhyan Chohan]]s impede the work of the [[Mamo Chohan]]s, for their Law is darkness, ignorance, destruction etc., as that of the former is Light, knowledge and creation. The [[Dhyan Chohan]]s answer to Buddh, [[Wisdom#Divine wisdom\|Divine Wisdom]] and Life in blissful knowledge, and the Ma-mos are the personification in nature of [[Shiva]], [[Jehovah]] and other invented monsters with Ignorance at their tail).		But think well over it and you will. [[M.]] means here, that they have no right or even power to go against the natural or that work which is prescribed to each class of beings or existing things by the law of nature. The [[Brother]]s, for instance could prolong life but they could not destroy [[death]], not even for themselves. They can to a degree palliate evil and relieve suffering; they could not destroy evil. No more can the [[Dhyan Chohan]]s impede the work of the [[Mamo Chohan]]s, for their Law is darkness, ignorance, destruction etc., as that of the former is Light, knowledge and creation. The [[Dhyan Chohan]]s answer to Buddh, [[Wisdom#Divine wisdom\|Divine Wisdom]] and Life in blissful knowledge, and the Ma-mos are the personification in nature of [[Shiva]], [[Jehovah]] and other invented monsters with Ignorance at their tail).

			'''This is the end of M's letter. Then HPB continues in her own words.'''

	The last phrase of [[M.]]'s I translate is thus. "Tell him (you) then that for the sake of those who desire to learn and have information, I am ready		The last phrase of [[M.]]'s I translate is thus. "Tell him (you) then that for the sake of those who desire to learn and have information, I am ready

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	'''NOTES:'''		'''NOTES:'''
			* '''Shasters''' probably refers to Hindu treatises explaining the Vedas.
	* '''"my uncle"''' refers to Rostislav Andreyevich de Fadeyev (Nadyezhda’s brother). For a biographical sketch, refer to the ''Collected Writings'' Volume 3, pages 506–7.		* '''"my uncle"''' refers to Rostislav Andreyevich de Fadeyev (Nadyezhda’s brother). For a biographical sketch, refer to the ''Collected Writings'' Volume 3, pages 506–7.
	* '''C. and M.''' refers to the '''''Civil and Military Gazette''''', published in Lahore.		* '''C. and M.''' refers to the '''''Civil and Military Gazette''''', published in Lahore.

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	* '''"I can't".''' These words were added by [[H. P. Blavatsky\|H.P.B.]] to [[Morya\|the Master]]'s dictation.		* '''"I can't".''' These words were added by [[H. P. Blavatsky\|H.P.B.]] to [[Morya\|the Master]]'s dictation.
			* '''Mahomed''' is a variation of Mohammed or Muhammed, the Prophet of [[Islam]].

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	This is '''Letter No. 30''' in''' [[The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett (book)\|''The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett'']], 4th chronological edition'''. It corresponds to '''Letter No. 134''' in '''Barker numbering.''' See below for [[Mahatma Letter No. 30#Context and background\|Context and background]]. It is commonly called the "Prayag Letter."		This is '''Letter No. 30''' in''' [[The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett (book)\|''The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett'']], 4th chronological edition'''. It corresponds to '''Letter No. 134''' in '''Barker numbering.''' See below for [[Mahatma Letter No. 30#Context and background\|Context and background]]. It is commonly called the "Prayag Letter" because it deals with the [[Prayāg Theosophical Society]]. Prayag is an ancient name for Allahabad.

	[[Mahatma Letter No. 36]] (which is misdated) should be read before Mahatma Letter No. 30.		[[Mahatma Letter No. 36]] (which is misdated) should be read before Mahatma Letter No. 30.

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	from meat and vice. All my aspirations are for good etc.' and he, at the same time, building by his acts and deeds an impassable barrier on the road between himself and us. What have we, the disciples of the true [[Arhat]]s, of esoteric Buddhism and of Sang-gyas to do with the Shasters and Orthodox Brahmanism? There are 100 of thousands of [[Fakir]]s, [[Sannyasi]]s and [[Saddhu]]s leading the most pure lives, and yet being as they are, on the path of error, never having had an opportunity to meet, see or even hear of us. Their forefathers have driven away the followers of the only true philosophy upon earth away from India and now, it is not for the latter to come to them but to them to come to us if they want us. Which of them is ready to become a Buddhist, a Nastika as they call us? None. Those who have believed and followed us have had their reward. [[Alfred Percy Sinnett\|Mr. Sinnett]] and [[Allan Octavian Hume\|Hume]] are exceptions. Their beliefs are no barrier to us for they have none. They may have bad influences around them, bad magnetic emanations		from meat and vice. All my aspirations are for good etc.' and he, at the same time, building by his acts and deeds an impassable barrier on the road between himself and us. What have we, the disciples of the true [[Arhat]]s, of esoteric Buddhism and of Sang-gyas to do with the Shasters and Orthodox Brahmanism? There are 100 of thousands of [[Fakir]]s, [[Sannyasi]]s and [[Saddhu\|Sadhu]]s leading the most pure lives, and yet being as they are, on the path of error, never having had an opportunity to meet, see or even hear of us. Their forefathers have driven away the followers of the only true philosophy upon earth away from India and now, it is not for the latter to come to them but to them to come to us if they want us. Which of them is ready to become a Buddhist, a Nastika as they call us? None. Those who have believed and followed us have had their reward. [[Alfred Percy Sinnett\|Mr. Sinnett]] and [[Allan Octavian Hume\|Hume]] are exceptions. Their beliefs are no barrier to us for they have none. They may have bad influences around them, bad magnetic emanations

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	'''NOTES:'''		'''NOTES:'''
	* '''"my uncle"''' refers to Rostislav Andreyevich de Fadeyev (Nadyezhda’s brother). For a biographical sketch, refer to the ''Collected Writings'' Volume 3, pages 506–7.		* '''"my uncle"''' refers to Rostislav Andreyevich de Fadeyev (Nadyezhda’s brother). For a biographical sketch, refer to the ''Collected Writings'' Volume 3, pages 506–7.
			* '''C. and M.''' refers to the '''''Civil and Military Gazette''''', published in Lahore.
			* '''Primrose''' refers to Major-General James Primrose who was stationed at Kandahar.

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	But think well over it and you will. [[M.]] means here, that they have no right or even power to go against the natural or that work which is prescribed to each class of beings or existing things by the law of nature. The [[Brother]]s, for instance could prolong life but they could not destroy [[death]], not even for themselves. They can to a degree palliate evil and relieve suffering; they could not destroy evil. No more can the [[Dhyan Chohan]]s impede the work of the [[Mamo Chohan]]s, for their Law is darkness, ignorance, destruction etc., as that of the former is Light, knowledge and creation. The [[Dhyan Chohan]]s answer to Buddh, [[Wisdom#Divine wisdom\|Divine Wisdom]] and Life in blissful knowledge, and the Ma-mos are the personification in nature of [[Shiva]], [[Jehovah]] and other invented monsters with Ignorance at their tail).		But think well over it and you will. [[M.]] means here, that they have no right or even power to go against the natural or that work which is prescribed to each class of beings or existing things by the law of nature. The [[Brother]]s, for instance could prolong life but they could not destroy [[death]], not even for themselves. They can to a degree palliate evil and relieve suffering; they could not destroy evil. No more can the [[Dhyan Chohan]]s impede the work of the [[Mamo Chohan]]s, for their Law is darkness, ignorance, destruction etc., as that of the former is Light, knowledge and creation. The [[Dhyan Chohan]]s answer to Buddh, [[Wisdom#Divine wisdom\|Divine Wisdom]] and Life in blissful knowledge, and the Ma-mos are the personification in nature of [[Shiva]], [[Jehovah]] and other invented monsters with Ignorance at their tail).

	The last phrase of [[M.]]'s I translate is thus. Tell him (you) then that for the sake of those who desire to learn and have information, I am ready		The last phrase of [[M.]]'s I translate is thus. "Tell him (you) then that for the sake of those who desire to learn and have information, I am ready

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	from meat and vice. All my aspirations are for good etc.' and he, at the same time, building by his acts and deeds an impassable barrier on the road between himself and us. What have we, the disciples of the true [[Arhat]]s, of esoteric Buddhism and of Sang-gyas to do with the Shasters and Orthodox Brahmanism? There are 100 of thousands of [[Fakir]]s, [[Sannyasi]]s and [[Saddhu]]s leading the most pure lives, and yet being as they are, on the path of error, never having had an opportunity to meet, see or even hear of us. Their forefathers have driven away the followers of the only true philosophy upon earth away from India and now, it is not for the latter to come to them but to them to come to us if they want us. Which of them is ready to become a Buddhist, a Nastika as they call us? None. Those who have believed and followed us have had their reward. [[Alfred Percy Sinnett\|Mr. Sinnett]] and [[Allan Octavian Hume\|Hume]] are exceptions. Their beliefs are no barrier to us for they have none. They may have bad influences around them, bad magnetic emanations		from meat and vice. All my aspirations are for good etc.' and he, at the same time, building by his acts and deeds an impassable barrier on the road between himself and us. What have we, the disciples of the true [[Arhat]]s, of esoteric Buddhism and of Sang-gyas to do with the Shasters and Orthodox Brahmanism? There are 100 of thousands of [[Fakir]]s, [[Sannyasi]]s and [[Saddhu\|Sadhu]]s leading the most pure lives, and yet being as they are, on the path of error, never having had an opportunity to meet, see or even hear of us. Their forefathers have driven away the followers of the only true philosophy upon earth away from India and now, it is not for the latter to come to them but to them to come to us if they want us. Which of them is ready to become a Buddhist, a Nastika as they call us? None. Those who have believed and followed us have had their reward. [[Alfred Percy Sinnett\|Mr. Sinnett]] and [[Allan Octavian Hume\|Hume]] are exceptions. Their beliefs are no barrier to us for they have none. They may have bad influences around them, bad magnetic emanations

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