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'''This is Letter No. 125 in Barker numbering.''' See below for [[Mahatma Letter No. 83#Context and background|Context and background]].
This is '''Letter No. 83''' in''' [[The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett (book)|''The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett'']], 4th chronological edition'''. It corresponds to '''Letter No. 125''' in '''Barker numbering.''' This is actually not a letter but "the footnote by Djual Khool" mentioned in [[ML52]] (No. 81 in Barker numbering). See below for [[Mahatma Letter No. 83#Context and background|Context and background]].
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I am commanded by my beloved Master, known in India and the Western lands as Koot Hoomi Lal Singh, to make in his name the following declaration, in answer to a certain statement made by Mr. W. Oxley, and sent by him for publication in the Theosophist. It is claimed by the said gentleman that my Master Koot Hoomi (a) has thrice visited him "by the astral form"; and (b) that he had a conversation with Mr. Oxley when, as alleged he gave the latter certain explanations in reference to astral bodies in general, and the incompetency of his own Mayavy-rupa to preserve its consciousness simultaneously with the body "at both ends of the line" — therefore my Master declares that: — 1. Whomsoever Mr. Oxley may have seen and conversed with at the time described, it was not with Koot Hoomi, the writer of the letters published in the Occult World.
I am commanded by my beloved [[Masters of Wisdom|Master]], known in India and the Western lands as [[Koot Hoomi|Koot Hoomi Lal Singh]], to make in his name the following declaration, in answer to a certain statement made by [[William Oxley|Mr. W. Oxley]], and sent by him for publication in the [[The Theosophist (periodical)|Theosophist]]. It is claimed by the said gentleman that my Master Koot Hoomi (a) has thrice visited him "by the astral form"; and (b) that he had a conversation with Mr. Oxley when, as alleged he gave the latter certain explanations in reference to [[Astral Body|astral bodies]] in general, and the incompetency of his own [[Māyāvi-Rūpa|Mayavy-rupa]] to preserve its consciousness simultaneously with the [[Sthūla-śarīra|body]] "at both ends of the line" — therefore my Master declares that: — 1. Whomsoever Mr. Oxley may have seen and conversed with at the time described, it was not with Koot Hoomi, the writer of the letters published in the [[The Occult World (book)|Occult World]].


2. Notwithstanding that my Master knows
2. Notwithstanding that my Master knows
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* '''a certain statement''' refers to an article published in the [[The Theosophist (periodical)|''The Theosophist'']] on September, 1882, pages 298-303, entitled "The Philosophy of Spirit - Hierosophy, Theosophy, and Psychosophy".


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he gentleman in question who once honoured him with an autograph letter, thereby giving him the means of making his (Mr. Oxley's) acquaintance and of sincerely admiring his intuitional powers and western learning — yet he has never approached him whether astrally or otherwise: Nor has he ever had any conversation with Mr. Oxley, least of all one of that nature in which both the subject and predicate, the premises and conclusions are all wrong.
the gentleman in question who once honoured him with an autograph letter, thereby giving him the means of making his ([[William Oxley|Mr. Oxley]]'s) acquaintance and of sincerely admiring his intuitional powers and western learning — yet he has never approached him whether [[astral]]ly or otherwise: Nor has he ever had any conversation with Mr. Oxley, least of all one of that nature in which both the subject and predicate, the premises and conclusions are all wrong.


3. In consequence of the said claims, the repetition of which is calculated to lead many of our theosophists into error, my Master has determined to issue the following resolution.
3. In consequence of the said claims, the repetition of which is calculated to lead many of our [[theosophist]]s into error, my [[Masters of Wisdom|Master]] has determined to issue the following resolution.


Henceforth any medium or seer who will feel disposed to claim either to have been visited by, or to have held conversation with, or to have seen my Master, — will have to substantiate the claim by prefixing his or her statement with THREE SECRET WORDS, which he, my Teacher, will divulge to and leave in the safe keeping of Mr. A. O. Hume, and Mr. A. P. Sinnett the respective President and Vice-President, of "The Eclectic Theosophical Society" of Simla. As long as they do not find
Henceforth any [[Mediumship|medium]] or seer who will feel disposed to claim either to have been visited by, or to have held conversation with, or to have seen my Master, — will have to substantiate the claim by prefixing his or her statement with THREE SECRET WORDS, which he, my Teacher, will divulge to and leave in the safe keeping of [[Allan Octavian Hume|Mr. A. O. Hume]], and [[Alfred Percy Sinnett|Mr. A. P. Sinnett]] the respective President and Vice-President, of [[Simla Eclectic Theosophical Society|"The Eclectic Theosophical Society"]] of Simla. As long as they do not find
 
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* The '''"Three secret words"''' were, Kin-t-an, Na-lan-da, Dhe-ra-bu


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these three words correctly repeated by a medium or heading a statement to that effect, whether verbal or printed, emanating from him or her, or on his or her behalf, the claim shall be regarded as a gratuitous assumption and no notice will be taken of it. To his regret my Master is forced to adopt this step, as unfortunately of late such self-deception have become quite frequent, and would demand a speedy check.
these three words correctly repeated by a [[mediumship|medium]] or heading a statement to that effect, whether verbal or printed, emanating from him or her, or on his or her behalf, the claim shall be regarded as a gratuitous assumption and no notice will be taken of it. To his regret my [[Masters of Wisdom|Master]] is forced to adopt this step, as unfortunately of late such self-deception have become quite frequent, and would demand a speedy check.


The above declaration and statement to be appended as a footnote to Mr. Oxley's published statement.
The above declaration and statement to be appended as a footnote to [[William Oxley|Mr. Oxley]]'s published statement.


By order,
By order,


Gjual--Khool. M.xxx.
[[Djual Khool|Gjual--Khool]]. M.xxx.
 
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== Physical description of letter ==
== Physical description of letter ==


The original is in the British Library, Folio 3. According to [[George Linton]] and [[Virginia Hanson]],
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Written by [[Djual Khool|DK]] on thin paper in brown ink. Two corrections have been made in it in blue ink. This is actually not a letter but "the footnote by Djual Khool" mentioned on p. 289, [[ML81|ML-52 (81)]]. See Study Notes on that letter.<ref>George E. Linton and Virginia Hanson, eds., ''Readers Guide to The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett'' (Adyar, Chennai, India: Theosophical Publishing House, 1972), 141.</ref>
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== Publication history ==
== Publication history ==
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== Commentary about this letter ==
== Commentary about this letter ==
This letter is the footnote by Djual Khul (here Gjual-Khool) to the article by W. Oxley.
Earlier H.P.B. had written a letter to Sinnett dated August 3, 1882, in which she says she received:
"an interminable article from that blind bat, W. Oxley — versus Subba Row, whom he calls a bigoted orthodox Brahmin! He, Oxley, had three visits from K.H. “by astral form” he tells the public!!! and the philosophic doctrine therein propounded . . . is hardly calculated to enlighten the poor mortals or strengthen their esteem for the powers of the Brothers. I was going to reject the MSS but K.H. ordered me not to, and D.K. just brought in a long footnote to be appended to the article as it is given to me in double copy I send to you as ordered. K.H. tells you to make alterations in it if you like it, and send them before the thing is printed."
Oxley was an Englishman who had written a book entitled ''Philosophy of the Spirit'', which had been reviewed by D.K. in ''The Theosophist''. Oxley took exception to some of the things said in the review and, apparently in retaliation, made the assertion about his visits from K.H.
The “three passwords” mentioned in the last paragraph of the Letter No. 83 are not in this letter, but appear in what is apparently a postscript to some other letter written a month or so later by the Mahatma (Letter No. 96 [ML-92]). Chronologically it does not belong here, but its subject matter does. It is as follows:
"It may so happen that for purposes of our own, mediums and their spooks will be left undisturbed and free not only to personate the “Brothers” but even to forge our handwriting. Bear this in mind and be prepared for it in London. Unless the message or communication or whatever it may be is preceded by the triple words:
“Kin-t-an, Na-lan-da, Dhe-ra-bu”
know it is not me nor from me."




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This is Letter No. 83 in The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett, 4th chronological edition. It corresponds to Letter No. 125 in Barker numbering. This is actually not a letter but "the footnote by Djual Khool" mentioned in ML52 (No. 81 in Barker numbering). See below for Context and background.

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I am commanded by my beloved Master, known in India and the Western lands as Koot Hoomi Lal Singh, to make in his name the following declaration, in answer to a certain statement made by Mr. W. Oxley, and sent by him for publication in the Theosophist. It is claimed by the said gentleman that my Master Koot Hoomi (a) has thrice visited him "by the astral form"; and (b) that he had a conversation with Mr. Oxley when, as alleged he gave the latter certain explanations in reference to astral bodies in general, and the incompetency of his own Mayavy-rupa to preserve its consciousness simultaneously with the body "at both ends of the line" — therefore my Master declares that: — 1. Whomsoever Mr. Oxley may have seen and conversed with at the time described, it was not with Koot Hoomi, the writer of the letters published in the Occult World.

2. Notwithstanding that my Master knows

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  • a certain statement refers to an article published in the The Theosophist on September, 1882, pages 298-303, entitled "The Philosophy of Spirit - Hierosophy, Theosophy, and Psychosophy".

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the gentleman in question who once honoured him with an autograph letter, thereby giving him the means of making his (Mr. Oxley's) acquaintance and of sincerely admiring his intuitional powers and western learning — yet he has never approached him whether astrally or otherwise: Nor has he ever had any conversation with Mr. Oxley, least of all one of that nature in which both the subject and predicate, the premises and conclusions are all wrong.

3. In consequence of the said claims, the repetition of which is calculated to lead many of our theosophists into error, my Master has determined to issue the following resolution.

Henceforth any medium or seer who will feel disposed to claim either to have been visited by, or to have held conversation with, or to have seen my Master, — will have to substantiate the claim by prefixing his or her statement with THREE SECRET WORDS, which he, my Teacher, will divulge to and leave in the safe keeping of Mr. A. O. Hume, and Mr. A. P. Sinnett the respective President and Vice-President, of "The Eclectic Theosophical Society" of Simla. As long as they do not find

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NOTES:

  • The "Three secret words" were, Kin-t-an, Na-lan-da, Dhe-ra-bu

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these three words correctly repeated by a medium or heading a statement to that effect, whether verbal or printed, emanating from him or her, or on his or her behalf, the claim shall be regarded as a gratuitous assumption and no notice will be taken of it. To his regret my Master is forced to adopt this step, as unfortunately of late such self-deception have become quite frequent, and would demand a speedy check.

The above declaration and statement to be appended as a footnote to Mr. Oxley's published statement.

By order,

Gjual--Khool. M.xxx.

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Context and background

Physical description of letter

The original is in the British Library, Folio 3. According to George Linton and Virginia Hanson,

Written by DK on thin paper in brown ink. Two corrections have been made in it in blue ink. This is actually not a letter but "the footnote by Djual Khool" mentioned on p. 289, ML-52 (81). See Study Notes on that letter.[1]

Publication history

Commentary about this letter

This letter is the footnote by Djual Khul (here Gjual-Khool) to the article by W. Oxley.

Earlier H.P.B. had written a letter to Sinnett dated August 3, 1882, in which she says she received:

"an interminable article from that blind bat, W. Oxley — versus Subba Row, whom he calls a bigoted orthodox Brahmin! He, Oxley, had three visits from K.H. “by astral form” he tells the public!!! and the philosophic doctrine therein propounded . . . is hardly calculated to enlighten the poor mortals or strengthen their esteem for the powers of the Brothers. I was going to reject the MSS but K.H. ordered me not to, and D.K. just brought in a long footnote to be appended to the article as it is given to me in double copy I send to you as ordered. K.H. tells you to make alterations in it if you like it, and send them before the thing is printed."

Oxley was an Englishman who had written a book entitled Philosophy of the Spirit, which had been reviewed by D.K. in The Theosophist. Oxley took exception to some of the things said in the review and, apparently in retaliation, made the assertion about his visits from K.H.

The “three passwords” mentioned in the last paragraph of the Letter No. 83 are not in this letter, but appear in what is apparently a postscript to some other letter written a month or so later by the Mahatma (Letter No. 96 [ML-92]). Chronologically it does not belong here, but its subject matter does. It is as follows:

"It may so happen that for purposes of our own, mediums and their spooks will be left undisturbed and free not only to personate the “Brothers” but even to forge our handwriting. Bear this in mind and be prepared for it in London. Unless the message or communication or whatever it may be is preceded by the triple words:

“Kin-t-an, Na-lan-da, Dhe-ra-bu”

know it is not me nor from me."


Notes

  1. George E. Linton and Virginia Hanson, eds., Readers Guide to The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett (Adyar, Chennai, India: Theosophical Publishing House, 1972), 141.