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| writtenby        = [[Koot Hoomi]]
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| receivedby        = [[A. P. Sinnett]]
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| receiveddate      = late September 1882
'''This is Letter No. 112 in Barker numbering.''' See below for [[Mahatma Letter No. 86#Context and background|Context and background]].
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| sentfrom          = Phari Jong monastery
| receivedat        = [[Simla, India]]
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This is '''Letter No. 86''' in''' [[The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett (book)|''The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett'']], 4th chronological edition'''. It corresponds to '''Letter No. 112''' in '''Barker numbering.''' See below for [[Mahatma Letter No. 86#Context and background|Context and background]].
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== Page 1 transcription, image, and notes ==


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My reply to Colonel Chesney in answer to his letter was already written and ready to be forwarded by my little man, when I received yours advising me not to correspond with him. Therefore I forward it to you to be read, and should you think it expedient — to deliver it to it's address. It seems rude to leave his letter without any acknowledgment — whether he is or is not in sympathy with the movement.
My reply to [[Colonel Chesney]] in answer to his letter was already written and ready to be forwarded by my little man, when I received yours advising me not to correspond with him. Therefore I forward it to you to be read, and should you think it expedient — to deliver it to it's address. It seems rude to leave his letter without any acknowledgment — whether he is or is not in sympathy with the movement.


But good friend I leave this entirely in your hands and pray you to use in the matter your own discretion. You ought to know that decidedly young Fern is a little humbug and worse — a congenital though often an irresponsible liar. He tries in his last to bamboozle M. and make him believe he, Fern, is a new Zanoni en herbe. He is testing
But good friend I leave this entirely in your hands and pray you to use in the matter your own discretion. You ought to know that decidedly young [[Edmond W. Fern|Fern]] is a little humbug and worse — a congenital though often an irresponsible liar. He tries in his last to bamboozle [[Morya|M.]] and make him believe he, Fern, is a new [[Zanoni (book)|Zanoni]] ''en herbe''. He is testing


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* "Zanoni en herbe" uses the French expression for immature or green to indicate "a budding Zanoni."  [[Edward Bulwer-Lytton|Bulwer-Lytton's]] fictional [[Zanoni (book)|Zanoni]] was a Rosicrucian who lost his immortality when he fell in love.
* '''Zanoni en herbe''' uses the French expression for immature or green to indicate "a budding Zanoni."  [[Edward Bulwer-Lytton|Bulwer-Lytton's]] fictional Zanoni was a [[Rosicrucianism|Rosicrucian]] who lost his immortality when he fell in love.


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us in every way and manner and constant skirmishes notwithstanding has a certain and very strong influence on Hume, whom he bamboozles with imaginary "powers" whose mission is to supplant the Brothers. He made him believe indirectly he belonged to a Society whose "name is unmentionable" a Society that seeks no one, whose one member knows not who the other is, nor will he know till the real nature of the "Brothers" is made public, though the system on which it works precludes all deception, etc. etc. To M. he writes that he confesses he "ought not to have put temptation" in his (Hume's) way. For having over estimated his strength, he has "unwittingly caused him to fall."!! This individual is at the bottom of much  
us in every way and manner and constant skirmishes notwithstanding has a certain and very strong influence on [[Allan Octavian Hume|Hume]], whom he bamboozles with imaginary "powers" whose mission is to supplant the [[Masters of Wisdom|Brothers]]. He made him believe indirectly he belonged to a Society whose "name is unmentionable" a Society that seeks no one, whose one member knows not who the other is, nor will he know till the real nature of the "Brothers" is made public, though the system on which it works precludes all deception, etc. etc. To [[Morya|M.]] he writes that he confesses he "ought not to have put temptation" in his (Hume's) way. For having over estimated his strength, he has "unwittingly caused him to fall."!! This individual is at the bottom of much  
 
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* '''my little man''' refers to [[Babaji]].


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that has happened. Watch and beware of him. One thing is certain though. These are not times for visiting with severity the offences of the too indiscreet and but half faithful "lay chelas." Now that Mr. Hume alienated the Chohan and M. I remain alone to carry on the difficult work. You read H.'s letter. How do you like that huge shadow of a Yogi with solemnly stretched out hand, and defiant haughty eyes disavowing with contemptuous gesture the intent of hurting the Society.
that has happened. Watch and beware of him. One thing is certain though. These are not times for visiting with severity the offences of the too indiscreet and but half faithful [[Chela#Lay Chela|"lay chelas"]]. Now that [[Allan Octavian Hume|Mr. Hume]] alienated the [[Chohan]] and [[Morya|M.]] I remain alone to carry on the difficult work. You read H.'s letter. How do you like that huge shadow of a Yogi with solemnly stretched out hand, and defiant haughty eyes disavowing with contemptuous gesture the intent of hurting the [[Theosophical Society|Society]].


Let me echo your sigh for the poor Society, and before fading away again into the foggy distance between Simla and Pari Jong assure you of my ever friendly feelings for yourself,
Let me echo your sigh for the poor Society, and before fading away again into the foggy distance between Simla and Pari Jong assure you of my ever friendly feelings for yourself,


K. H.
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Mr. W. Oxley wants to join the Eclectic. I'll tell her to send to you on his letter. Kindly write to him to say that he must not feel vexed at my denial. I know he is thoroughly sincere and as incapable of a deception or even exaggeration as you are. But he trusts too much to his subjects. Let him be cautious and very guarded; and, if he joins the Society I may help and even correspond with him through you. He is a valuable man, and indeed, more worthy of sincere respect than any other Spiritualistic mystic I know of. And though I have never approached him astrally or conversed with I have often examined him in thought. Do not fail to write to him with the first steamer.
[[William Oxley|Mr. W. Oxley]] wants to join the [[Simla Eclectic Theosophical Society|Eclectic]]. I'll tell her to send to you on his letter. Kindly write to him to say that he must not feel vexed at my denial. I know he is thoroughly sincere and as incapable of a deception or even exaggeration as you are. But he trusts too much to his subjects. Let him be cautious and very guarded; and, if he joins the Society I may help and even correspond with him through you. He is a valuable man, and indeed, more worthy of sincere respect than any other [[Spiritualism|Spiritualistic]] mystic I know of. And though I have never approached him astrally or conversed with I have often examined him in thought. Do not fail to write to him with the first steamer.


K. H.
[[Koot Hoomi|K. H.]]


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== Physical description of letter ==
== Physical description of letter ==


The original is in the British Library, Folio 3. According to [[George Linton]] and [[Virginia Hanson]], the letter was written:
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On a folded sheet of smooth bluish colored paper, about 5" x 8 1/2" <nowiki>[</nowiki>12.7 x 21.6 cm<nowiki>]</nowiki>, in blue pencil,with grained appearance.<ref>George E. Linton and Virginia Hanson, eds., ''Readers Guide to The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett'' (Adyar, Chennai, India: Theosophical Publishing House, 1972), 145.</ref>
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Latest revision as of 02:53, 1 March 2020

Quick Facts
People involved
Written by: Koot Hoomi
Received by: A. P. Sinnett
Sent via: unknown
Dates
Written on: unknown
Received on: late September 1882
Other dates: unknown
Places
Sent from: Phari Jong monastery
Received at: Simla, India
Via: unknown 

This is Letter No. 86 in The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett, 4th chronological edition. It corresponds to Letter No. 112 in Barker numbering. See below for Context and background.

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Page 1 transcription, image, and notes

My reply to Colonel Chesney in answer to his letter was already written and ready to be forwarded by my little man, when I received yours advising me not to correspond with him. Therefore I forward it to you to be read, and should you think it expedient — to deliver it to it's address. It seems rude to leave his letter without any acknowledgment — whether he is or is not in sympathy with the movement.

But good friend I leave this entirely in your hands and pray you to use in the matter your own discretion. You ought to know that decidedly young Fern is a little humbug and worse — a congenital though often an irresponsible liar. He tries in his last to bamboozle M. and make him believe he, Fern, is a new Zanoni en herbe. He is testing

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  • Zanoni en herbe uses the French expression for immature or green to indicate "a budding Zanoni." Bulwer-Lytton's fictional Zanoni was a Rosicrucian who lost his immortality when he fell in love.

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us in every way and manner and constant skirmishes notwithstanding has a certain and very strong influence on Hume, whom he bamboozles with imaginary "powers" whose mission is to supplant the Brothers. He made him believe indirectly he belonged to a Society whose "name is unmentionable" a Society that seeks no one, whose one member knows not who the other is, nor will he know till the real nature of the "Brothers" is made public, though the system on which it works precludes all deception, etc. etc. To M. he writes that he confesses he "ought not to have put temptation" in his (Hume's) way. For having over estimated his strength, he has "unwittingly caused him to fall."!! This individual is at the bottom of much

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  • my little man refers to Babaji.

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that has happened. Watch and beware of him. One thing is certain though. These are not times for visiting with severity the offences of the too indiscreet and but half faithful "lay chelas". Now that Mr. Hume alienated the Chohan and M. I remain alone to carry on the difficult work. You read H.'s letter. How do you like that huge shadow of a Yogi with solemnly stretched out hand, and defiant haughty eyes disavowing with contemptuous gesture the intent of hurting the Society.

Let me echo your sigh for the poor Society, and before fading away again into the foggy distance between Simla and Pari Jong assure you of my ever friendly feelings for yourself,

K. H.

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Mr. W. Oxley wants to join the Eclectic. I'll tell her to send to you on his letter. Kindly write to him to say that he must not feel vexed at my denial. I know he is thoroughly sincere and as incapable of a deception or even exaggeration as you are. But he trusts too much to his subjects. Let him be cautious and very guarded; and, if he joins the Society I may help and even correspond with him through you. He is a valuable man, and indeed, more worthy of sincere respect than any other Spiritualistic mystic I know of. And though I have never approached him astrally or conversed with I have often examined him in thought. Do not fail to write to him with the first steamer.

K. H.

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Context and background

Physical description of letter

The original is in the British Library, Folio 3. According to George Linton and Virginia Hanson, the letter was written:

On a folded sheet of smooth bluish colored paper, about 5" x 8 1/2" [12.7 x 21.6 cm], in blue pencil,with grained appearance.[1]

Publication history

Commentary about this letter

Notes

  1. George E. Linton and Virginia Hanson, eds., Readers Guide to The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett (Adyar, Chennai, India: Theosophical Publishing House, 1972), 145.