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[[ | | header1 = People involved | | ||
| writtenby = [[H. P. Blavatsky]] | |||
| receivedby = [[A. P. Sinnett]] | |||
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''' | | receiveddate = October 1884 | ||
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| receivedat = London | |||
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This is '''Letter No. 132''' in ''' [[The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett (book)|''The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett'']], 4th chronological edition'''. It corresponds to '''Letter No. 135''' in '''Barker numbering.''' See below for [[Mahatma Letter No. 132#Context and background|Context and background]]. | |||
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<big>[[Mahatma Letter No. 131|'''<nowiki> < </nowiki>'''Prev letter chrono]]</big>{{pad|3em}} | <big>[[Mahatma Letter No. 131|'''<nowiki> < </nowiki>'''Prev letter chrono]]</big>{{pad|3em}} | ||
<big>[[Mahatma Letter No. 133|Next letter chrono'''<nowiki> > </nowiki>''']]</big>{{pad|3em}} | <big>[[Mahatma Letter No. 133|Next letter chrono'''<nowiki> > </nowiki>''']]</big>{{pad|3em}} | ||
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<big>[[Mahatma Letter No. 30|'''<nowiki> < </nowiki>'''Prev letter Barker]]</big>{{pad|3em}} | <big>[[Mahatma Letter No. 30|'''<nowiki> < </nowiki>'''Prev letter Barker]]</big>{{pad|3em}} | ||
<big>[[Mahatma Letter No. 53|Next letter Barker'''<nowiki> > </nowiki>''']]</big> | <big>[[Mahatma Letter No. 53|Next letter Barker'''<nowiki> > </nowiki>''']]</big> | ||
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== Page 1 transcription, image, and notes == | == Page 1 transcription, image, and notes == | ||
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My dear Mr. Sinnett, | My dear [[Alfred Percy Sinnett|Mr. Sinnett]], | ||
For fear that you should "trace back" to me a new treachery, permit me to say that I have never said to Hubbe Schleiden and Frank Gebhard that the existence of our seven objective planets was an allegory. What I said was, that the objectivity and actuality of the septenary chain had nothing to do with the correct understanding of the seven rounds. That outside of the initiates no one knew the mot final of this | For fear that you should "trace back" to me a new treachery, permit me to say that I have never said to [[Wilhelm Hübbe-Schleiden|Hubbe Schleiden]] and [[Gebhard family|Frank Gebhard]] that the existence of our [[Planetary Chain|seven objective planets]] was an allegory. What I said was, that the objectivity and actuality of the septenary chain had nothing to do with the correct understanding of the [[Round|seven rounds]]. That outside of the [[Initiation|initiates]] no one knew the mot final of this | ||
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'''NOTES:''' | '''NOTES:''' | ||
* | * '''mot final''' is French for "final word." | ||
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mystery. That you could not understand it thoroughly, nor explain it, because Mahat K.H. told you hundred times that you could not be told the whole doctrine; that you knew Hume had made him questions and cross-examined Him until his hair became grey. That there were hundred apparent inconsistencies just because you had not the key to the x777x and could not be given it. In short that you gave the truth, but by far not the whole truth especially about rounds and rings which was only at best allegorical. | mystery. That you could not understand it thoroughly, nor explain it, because [[Koot Hoomi|Mahat. K.H.]] told you hundred times that you could not be told the whole doctrine; that you knew [[Allan Octavian Hume|Hume]] had made him questions and cross-examined Him until his hair became grey. That there were hundred apparent inconsistencies just because you had not the key to the x777x and could not be given it. In short that you gave the truth, but by far not the whole truth especially about [[Chains and Rounds|rounds and rings]] which was only at best allegorical. | ||
Yours, | Yours, | ||
H.P.B. | [[Helena Petrovna Blavatsky|H.P.B.]] | ||
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'''NOTES:''' | '''NOTES:''' | ||
* | * '''x777x''' refers to "the problem of the 777 [[Reincarnation|incarnations]]" that Master K.H. spoke about in [[Mahatma Letter No. 66#Page 19|Mahatma Letter No. 66]]. | ||
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== Physical description of letter == | == Physical description of letter == | ||
The original is in the British Library, Folio 3. [[George Linton]] and [[Virginia Hanson]] described the letter this way: | |||
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In [[Helena Petrovna Blavatsky|HPB's]] handwriting on both sides of a blue card, about 4" X 5" <nowiki>[</nowiki>10.2 X 12.7 cm<nowiki>]</nowiki>.<ref>George E. Linton and Virginia Hanson, eds., ''Readers Guide to The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett'' (Adyar, Chennai, India: Theosophical Publishing House, 1972), 204.</ref> | |||
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== Publication history == | == Publication history == | ||
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== Notes == | == Notes == | ||
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Latest revision as of 03:28, 1 March 2020
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| People involved | |
| Written by: | H. P. Blavatsky |
| Received by: | A. P. Sinnett |
| Sent via: | unknown |
| Dates | |
| Written on: | unknown |
| Received on: | October 1884 |
| Other dates: | unknown |
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| Sent from: | unknown |
| Received at: | London |
| Via: | unknown |
This is Letter No. 132 in The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett, 4th chronological edition. It corresponds to Letter No. 135 in Barker numbering. See below for Context and background.
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Page 1 transcription, image, and notes
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My dear Mr. Sinnett, For fear that you should "trace back" to me a new treachery, permit me to say that I have never said to Hubbe Schleiden and Frank Gebhard that the existence of our seven objective planets was an allegory. What I said was, that the objectivity and actuality of the septenary chain had nothing to do with the correct understanding of the seven rounds. That outside of the initiates no one knew the mot final of this |
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mystery. That you could not understand it thoroughly, nor explain it, because Mahat. K.H. told you hundred times that you could not be told the whole doctrine; that you knew Hume had made him questions and cross-examined Him until his hair became grey. That there were hundred apparent inconsistencies just because you had not the key to the x777x and could not be given it. In short that you gave the truth, but by far not the whole truth especially about rounds and rings which was only at best allegorical. Yours, |
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Context and background
Physical description of letter
The original is in the British Library, Folio 3. George Linton and Virginia Hanson described the letter this way:
In HPB's handwriting on both sides of a blue card, about 4" X 5" [10.2 X 12.7 cm].[1]
Publication history
Commentary about this letter
Notes
- ↑ George E. Linton and Virginia Hanson, eds., Readers Guide to The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett (Adyar, Chennai, India: Theosophical Publishing House, 1972), 204.